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"The name seems to derive from gb (𐤂𐤁, "well") and ʾl (𐤀𐤋, "god")..."

The problem with this proposed etymology is that it is not reflected in ANY of the early spellings. The gbl ("mountain") trilateral root is problematic because it does not fit the location.

The difficulties with these etymologies need to be made explicit in the text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.129.28 (talk) 00:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Etymology

The article claims: "The name seems to derive from GB (𐤂𐤁, "well") and ʾL (𐤀𐤋, "god"), the latter a word that could variously refer to any of the Canaanite gods or to their leader in particular. The name thus seems to have meant the "Well" or "Source of the God"."

Where is the reference for this claim? I have not been able to find any documented source that corroborates this supposed etymology.

Aside from the fact that Phoenician script was written right to left (in contrast to the above-written words in Phoenician characters), the purported etymology fails to explain the loss of the letter "Aleph" when going from GB 'L to GBL.

Every reference I have been able to find traces the etymology of the Phoenician name of the city Gebal (Byblos) to the trilateral Semitic route GBL meaning "border", "frontier", "mountain".

In light of what is written in the article that the early Neolithic settlement of Byblos "was located on the seaward slope of the larger of the two hills that used to compose ancient Byblos", this etymology makes perfect sense. This etymology is also better explained by the Akkadian form "Gubla".

Unless a reliable source can be cited in support of the cited "Source of the God" etymology, it should be changed in support of the well-documented GBL etymology.

Jacob D (talk) 09:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Jacob D[reply]

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