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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_September_20


September 20

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:First-person shooter multiplayer online games

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Nominator's rationale: This is a though one, but there are multiple reasons why this long-lasting category might not be as defining as everyone has once thought.

FPSMOGs are not a legitimate sub-genre of first-person shooters, while MMOFPSs considered one and Wikipedia has their own article on it. More importantly, most games in the FPS genre as whole will have online multiplayer, making it even more non-defining. This category isn't an entirely non-diffusing category and is also one of the only categories at the moment combing a genre and multiplayer online games.

This merge may make navigation harder, both the MOGs and FPS categories will contain 35-45 more articles, and that's okay. And besides not every single title that would fit into this category has been added here anyway.

For the subcategories we will instead replace the MMOFPSs category with category:Multiplayer online games and category:First-person shooters by series. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • question. okay, i see that you admit above that yes, there are many games that fall within this genre. ok. so your suggestion is that maybe we do not need a category to indicate them as multiplayer? i thought the category structure can encompass any valid distinctions. but is it truly the case that almost all fps games are multiplayer? if so, then maybe this suggestion would be viable. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Point of information. Of course many FPS games are MOGs! an MOG game is any game that takes place over a single round, and is not a persistent world. that is exactly what most fps games actually are!! such as Call of Duty, Doom (video game), Battlefield 2, etc etc! are you saying they are not?
Sm8900 (talk) 15:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More participation needed to achieve consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:22, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Military humor in film

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Nominator's rationale: The category groups films by the distinct genre, name of which seems to be established at this point and supported by sources like [1]. And also the parallel category to this is Category:Military comedy television series. Solidest (talk) 14:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Purge in addition to renaming?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also purge?
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Category:Compositions by Alexandre Desplat

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Nominator's rationale: The category contains only Category:Films scored by Alexandre Desplat and List of awards and nominations received by Alexandre Desplat, the latter of which I removed from Category:Compositions by Alexandre Desplat for being inappriopriate. It now has only one entry, and such categories should be deleted. Mr slav999 (talk) 17:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American convicts who became writers

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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining/narrow intersection between occupation, criminal status, and nationality. Mason (talk) 02:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename? Broaden while renaming?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: Rename? Broaden while renaming?
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Category:Novels about Go

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Nominator's rationale: Dual merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Films about neuropathology

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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category Mason (talk) 17:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge target?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:29, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quibbling about whether its contents belong in there is an irrelevance to the existence of the category. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge target? This is heading for a WP:BARTENDER close, which is less than ideal.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spanish anarcho-syndicalists

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Nominator's rationale: Redundant categorisation as most Spanish anarcho-syndicalists were members of the CNT and the few left over aren't meaningfully distinct from other categories of Spanish anarchists. Grnrchst (talk) 16:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, this category just adds clutter AnarchistHistory (talk) 17:24, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also dual merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:52, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Video game franchises by genre

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Nominator's rationale: As Category:Video game series by narrative genre was also renamed, replacing franchise with series, this category should be renamed to match with its subcategories. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 08:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, the merge you have suggested (which isn't related to the renaming of this category) will break the current categorization scheme that has remained static for years. It is necessary since these categories make a border between franchises and other related content to a genre. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Paralympic medalists in athletics (track and field)

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Nominator's rationale: Also, Category:Paralympic gold medalists in athletics (track and field)‎, respectively. Like Category:Olympic medalists in athletics (track and field), this category grows every four years, so being specific is useful, as para athletics is one of the events with the highest number of medals per Game. (CC) Tbhotch™ 05:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Commment @Tbhotch: I think the rationale doesn't align with your aim so it's worth reflecting on that. Unlike Olympic medalist biographies, most Paralympic medalist biographies are for people who have won multiple Paralympic medals. Often they've won 2 different kinds and frequently all 3 kinds. I plucked the first name in my head Jonnie Peacock and, behold, he has won Paralympic gold, silver and bronze. The end result of a by-medal split will probably be three categories that are maybe 80% of the same articles, which isn't too useful for navigation. I think a by nationality split would be far better for this tree (e.g. Category:Paralympic medalists in athletics (track and field) for Great Britain). SFB 21:46, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Sillyfolkboy's suggestion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: Thoughts on Sillyfolkboy's suggestion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Magritte Award winners

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Nominator's rationale: Per WP:COPSEP, we should not have a mix of biographical and non-biographical articles in the same category so this needs to be split somehow. Open to other naming schemes however. --woodensuperman 08:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Split per nom. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete?
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Category:Chiropractors by nationality

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Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary additional layer. Category:Chiropractors is already near empty with just three articles and this one subcat, and this subcat only has 11 subcats, so it's not doing much diffusion. Upmerge all subcats to Chiropractors. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Anomalous+0's objection?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: Thoughts on Anomalous+0's objection?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Video games with alternative versions

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Nominator's rationale: This category is oriented towards a non-defining and trivial trait. The "alternate versions" of the games in question consist of ports with different content or features mostly due to technical restrictions, HD/remastered versions, deluxe/collectors editions, and versions with both intentionally alternate titles and content. As you can see, the criteria for this category is not consistent; there's no way it can be defining, nor a category entitled "Video games with alternate titles in PAL regions". QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Video games in Hong Kong

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Nominator's rationale: Category:Video gaming in Hong Kong already exists, however this is the only category in the tree of Category:Video gaming by country that hasn't been renamed to match up with the names of other categories.

QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Asian-American drama films

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Nominator's rationale: Hyphenating heritage such as "Asian-American" or "African-American" doesn't seem to be the standard anymore. AP made this style change in 2019, following other style guides that have done the same. Additionally, this would bring the category in line with the related Wikipedia page titles (eg Asian Americans and Asian American activism). Probably a discussion of removing the hyphen from many related categories to be had, but I'm new to CfD and will try this one first. Thanks. Pingnova (talk) 00:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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